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TaleSpin Edits
Last Updated: 02/02/2020
Disney has been no stranger to editing shows out (The animated film Alice in Wonderland on CBC Canada comes to mind.); however, no Disney Television Animation show outside of Gargoyles has ever been edited as servely as TaleSpin has. I'm producing a list of edits from the show and using this as a message to Disney that this is simply wrong. So far; this is just a partial list. If anyone has any additional edits from the TaleSpin (not shown here) ; E-Mail me at: gweagle@eastlink.ca And if you have any comments about the TaleSpin editing; don't be afraid to e-mail me at the same e-mail address above. I don't list stuff that is considered forbidden that is not edited for fear that post-production will edit it out in the end. (A moot point now since the DVD sets are second run syndication.)
Number of episodes edited for Disney Channel/Toon Disney: 25/65*
Number of episodes usually skipped for Disney Channel/Toon Disney: 1/65** (3/65 for Disney+)
Editor's Note: All episodes have been restored uncut for the DVD release. Twenty-four of those episodes were known to be edited by Toon Disney. It should be noted that the DVD release of Plunder and Lightning uses the 1990 Syndication version and not the 1995 Disney Channel version. Same thing for the episodes themselves. The * indicates that there might be additional edits from episodes now that Disney has decided to allow the content in their DVD releases. The ** indicates that the skipped episode Flying Dupes is now on the TaleSpin Volume 3 DVD set. That only applies to television broadcasts.
TaleSpin In General
- Just after September, 2001; all episodes of TaleSpin which ran on Toon Disney at the time were removed from boardcast until September 2002. There have been two theories on this; the first one was that a lawsuit was brought by the estate of Louis Prima to prevent Jim Cummings from using Louis Prima's type voice in future Disney production and to collect royalities unpaid from Disney is series that used the Louie voice. The lawsuit was settled with the House of Mouse changing King Louie to King Larry and King Louie being removed from the Jungle Book 2 movie. However; TaleSpin's Louie was unaltered even to this day; which means that Disney has agreed to pay royalities on future appearances on the character if the character appeared in older productions such as TaleSpin. Jungle Cubs is unaffected because Louie's voice is completely different in mannerisms. The second theory is the one that is the most accepted one is that the show was pulled because of the terrorist attacks on September 11th, 2001. It does make some sense because the Air Pirates in TaleSpin were known for terrorism and hijacking cargo planes. Disney probably did it to prevent a huge "lack of empathy for the audience; most so in a high population market like New York City." backlash that would have been spawned as a result of doing nothing. It also doesn't help that Time Waits For No Bear, Baloo Thunder, Flight School Confidential and the fourth part of Plunder and Lightning featured various characters crashing helicopters and planes into buildings. However; more than a 1/3 of the episodes had no terrorism themes in them which made the move to pull the show completely seem unjustifed overall. Thankfully the show returned to air a year later and apparently; suffered some small snips and speeding up tape for commerical time. It should be noted that Louie is still voiced by Jim Cummings in the DVD release of TaleSpin along with Disney Channel/Toon Disney versions when the show returned to broadcast from 2002; thus indicating that 9/11 may have been the original reason and not the lawsuit.
- During TaleSpin's Syndication run when the commerical break would come; Disney would have these eyecatchers (yes even American animation uses them) which show a different TaleSpin logo and inside the logo there would be a clip from a TaleSpin episode (usually it was not the episode that ran that day). If you bought a TaleSpin VHS Video; the eyecatcher is after the first episode has ran; but before the second episode runs (and it's usually the episode that will run after the first episode runs). The background has some picture similar to what the Ducktales eyecatcher usually has (although the Ducktales eyecatcher only has a picture of the characters doing something in still motion). The music for the eyecatcher is a clip from the "Spin It" theme song. Anyhow; every episode had six eyecatchers to signal three commerical breaks with the last commerical break occuring just before the TaleSpin credits rolled. Anyhow; since 1995 those eyecatchers have been cut out completely in both Family Channel Canada and Toon Disney/Disney Channel boardcasts and either replaced with a signal for a commerical break like most American animation uses (we'll be back after these messages) or no eyecatcher at all (in the case of Family Channel Canada). I'm not sure about the TaleSpin airings on the Disney Afternoon because I didn't have UPN/WSBK TV38 at the time (which ran the Disney Afternoon on syndication) and all I have were the MITV airings which ran these eyecatchers on their boardcasts and they didn't have the Disney Afternoon. The eyecatchers have not been restored for DVD release.
- When TaleSpin was running on the Disney Afternoon block; the opening sequence for TaleSpin was reduced from sixty seconds to forty-five seconds. The entire WildCat scene in TaleSpin (The one where Baloo trims the hedges with the SeaDuck while WildCat ducks for cover; and a portion of Kit Cloudkicker surfing the skies while Don Karnage is shooting at him.) is cut. This is not a violence cut; this was a time cut since all Disney Afternoon shows running on that block were snipped for the same reason. This edit doesn't apply to Non-Disney Afternoon Syndication run, Disney Channel, Toon Disney, International cuts or the DVD release of TaleSpin as all those versions run at a full sixty seconds. Special thanks to Wauregan and Luke from Ultimate Disney for their help on the subject (in Luke's case it was pointing out that there were two versions of the opening.).
Plunder & Lightning (TV Movie Compared to Syndication) (192 Edits)
There are lots of edits; however, the ending result was that the original TV movie only added four or five extra minutes to the film. (Most of it coming from: "Home is Where the Heart Is") There were additions to the syndication version that did not appear in the first showing of "Plunder and Lightning"; strengthening a belief that the original TV movie was also edited as well. Thanks to Luara Ann Trombley for the videotape of P&L; and some extra footage of R.J. Williams from "Wake, Rattle and Roll". (I didn't know that there was a sequel to Wacky Racers.) Here is a small sample of edits; there are a lot more to come. I'm still plugging in more edits as I can find them when comparing my tapes. Please be patient. Special thanks to Kit Cloudkicker on Youtube for at least six additional edits (I counted the door scene as one edit compised of three different edits in the same scene).
Part One (40)
Part One had a lot of edits; and it really gave Part One (my favorite act in the whole movie.) a really bad name as the weakest part of the movie.
[1.] Title Card Edited in Syndication: In the TV Movie it was just Plunder and Lightning. In syndication Disney added Part One to the title card.
[2.] Cut In Syndication: There was a small two-second sequence where the CT-37's moved forward showing the damage to the plane of Flight #127.
[3.] Added In Syndication: When Mad Dog swings onto the rope after shooting the grappling hook gun; the syndication version added an extra sound effect to it that was absent in the movie version.
[4.] Cut In Syndication: There is a 21 second sequence where the nose of the Iron Vulture breaks up some rock off a mountain; and Don Karnage orders the men inside the Vulture to open up the beak.
[5.] Added In Syndication: The syndication version showed a extra second of Mad Dog and Gibber getting into position before Don Karnage puts the teasure box down.
[6.] Cut In Syndication: In the beginning of the Kit chase sence they showed an extra couple of seconds just before Kit ran down the first flight of stairs and Dumptruck; they showed Don Karnage turning on a dime and they also showed Gibber and Mad Dog turning on a dime.
[7.] Cut In Syndication: Kit's swinging off the rope causes Sadie and Ratchet to spin around before Kit lands and takes a grappling hook gun.
[8.] Cut In Syndication: After Kit takes the grappling gun; the TV movie showed an extra few seconds of Don Karnage, Sadie and Ratchet turning to the left to chase Kit.
[9.] Audio Change: The Syndication had the young boy's say "What?!" (RJ's almost sounds like Whasp?) just before he stopped running. The TV movie; he said it just after he stopped running. (One of the few Plunder and Lightning edits that I actually liked because the TV movie didn't sound quite right.)
[10.] Cut In Syndication: Four second pan of Louie and a few customers noticing that Don Karnage has entered Louie's.
[11.] Cut In Syndication: Kit is hiding from Don at Louie's. In the original; he was only shown hiding behind the left side of the table. The movie version also showed him hiding on the right side and then looks upstairs. Don goes over to a table and is drinking some juice that was sitting on that table and he sounds very rude. "You always make the finest drinks, Louie".
[12.] Digital Alteration In Syndication: When Don Karnage says "Hand him over and I'll let you go peacefully."; there is a woman's legs sticking out of a table in the movie version. In the syndication version, the woman's legs were removed and they added a badly drawn Seymour from All's Whale That Ends Whale sitting down at the table.
[13.] Added In Syndication: The Syndication version showed an extra second of Kit upstairs kneeling (beautiful artwork here.) to hide from Don Karnage.
[14.] Cut In Syndication: Just before Don Karnage draws to strike with his sword on Kit; they show a two second edit where they show Don Karnage competely flustered.
[15.] Added In Syndication: When Kit grabs the SeaDuck, an extra sound effect was added in syndication that was absent in the television movie version.
[16.] Audio Change: When the SeaDuck is flying outside by Kit, the Air Pirates arrive. In syndication; the audio was mostly the engines of the air pirates airplanes with the "Kit's Flight" music in the background being drowned out. In the movie version; the airplane sound is muted and you can hear a few seconds of the Air Pirates theme!
[17.] Cut In Syndication: After Baloo says "What are they after me for?" four seconds of the SeaDuck flying downwards in circles through some clouds.
[18.] Cut In Syndication: Baloo's Sea Duck spiral's up a cloud just after Don Karnage says : "Follow Them!"
[19.] Cut In Syndication: Baloo: "Hold tight Little Britches!" followed by Mad Dog singsonging: " Haha, nowhere to run!"; just before Kit said;" We aren't going to make it."
[20.] Added In Syndication: The syndication version showed Kit holding his hands over his eyes before saying:" No one can fly like that!". I should also note that the "You..." part was added in syndication as well.
[21.] Cut In Syndication: Just before Baloo says;" A quick exit.." Kit said the following lines: "A double reverse thimbleman? A pretzel twist?" Then Baloo says "Nope."
[22.] Cut In Syndication: Where Karnage is chasing Baloo and Kit; but just after Baloo says "A quick exit."; Karnage gets Baloo in his sights and utters the following line "Your tail section is mine!" (Source: Dan Green)
[23.] Cut In Syndication: There is a small shot where the SeaDuck is flying into the slot in between the cliff guns and it appears to be Barney O'Turrent's shack.
[24.] Cut In Syndication: Inside Baloo's house Kit notices a glass stuck on a table by a piece of chewing gum.
[25.] Cut In Syndication: Baloo takes a piece of leftover pizza (which spoiled I might add) and says to Kit: "You hungry". Kit responds: "Not anymore" in disgust.
[26.] Audio Change: While Kit says "But I have to go now" in the same line in both version; the movie version moves the audio about a second earlier than the syndication version.
[27.] Cut In Syndication: In the syndication version; Baloo simply grabs the bank representive just after he is informed that his plane might be foreclosed tomorrow. In the movie version, the representive gives Baloo the foreclose notice and Baloo is confused. He asks Kit: "Was this guy speaking English?"; Kit's response: "He said 'No Dough, Plane Go!'". Notice the tone of voice. And then he grabs the representive.
[28.] Cut In Syndication: Baloo says this after he finds a "zoo job.":
Baloo: Great! The SeaDuck is as good as mine! (Baloo walks away from Kit.) Kit: Yeah, you and the SeaDuck. (Baloo stops as he overhears Kit.) Well, catch you around sometime. (Kit is about to walk away; but is stopped by Baloo.) Baloo: He-hey! This is a two person job, Kit. You help me now, and I'll fly you to Louie's tomorrow. Okay? Kit: Really? (Turns tough again.)
[29.] Cut In Syndication: Don Karnage screams into the microphone with bullets flying: "Men! You Nimconpirates!"
[30.] Cut In Syndication: The Seaduck then goes into the thick jungle. Kit says to Baloo "You sure don't have to do this to impress me." Baloo responds "Just saving our skins Kit."
[31.] Altered In Syndication: When the SeaDuck goes into the hard camera (Note Kit's cap is missing from his head during this.); the movie version that this spot extended for two extra seconds. In the movie version; the two seconds was changed to a background of rocks.
[32.] Cut In Syndication: They showed a sence of Mad Dog's face before he runs into the wooden bridge and his plane spins around the wooden rope bridge before he falls.
[33.] Added In Syndication: The fall into the water was actually added in the syndication version.
[34.] Added In Syndication: The pirates response to Don Karnage's command to find the boy was added in the syndication version.
[35.] Altered In Syndication: The still-frame Air Pirate sence just before showing Kit hung up-side down; was right-side up in the original. The syndication version is shown up-side down. [This alteration I will forgive Disney for; because this was an animation glitch.]
[36.] Altered In Syndication: In the movie version; same scene as #34; there is a spot where Gibber is out of position (with his hat over his eyes) and is forced back to be in front of Don Karnage and perfectly timed it to allow Don Karnage to lean on Gibber's head with his elbow. I find it a pretty funny spot. In the movie version, Don Karnage is leaning on Gibber's head already and then he shoves Gibber away which causes Gibber's hat to fall over his eyes. So they basically flipped the shot horizontal, then vertical and then played it backwards in syndication.
[37.] Added In Syndication Kit and Baloo shouted "Wha?" when they reached the lake filled with alligators. That was added in the syndication version.
[38.] Cut In Syndication: After Kit says: "I'm...I'm sorry about your plane." Baloo responds: "Don't worry. You win some...you lose some." (Notice that he changes mood; ala Kit earlier on.)
[39.] General Edit For The First Three Parts of The TV Film: To be continued.... shown on the bottom of the screen at the end of the act in the syndication version. This is not shown in the movie version obviously.
[40.] General Edit For The First Three Parts of The TV Film: In the syndication version; the credits roll. In the television movie; the film continues at the beginning of the next act.
Part Two (71)
Not only does this act have the most edits; it also has the most notable edit in Disney Television Animation history ; "Home Is Where The Heart Is" and the scene spoke volumes about the show's ture value as a family show.
[1.] Added In Syndication/Alteration In Syndication: In the syndication version; there is a recap of Part One. When Kit Cloudkicker runs to the edge of the Iron Vulture, does the dive from the Iron Vulture and glides down with the airfoil; the scene is reversed.
[2.] General Edit: In The TV Movie there is no title card for Parts Two, Three and Four. In syndication there is a title card for each part.
[3.] Alternation In Syndication: This is a biggie: The entire background is much, much more detailed and colorful in the syndication version than the movie edition. The movie edition looks foggy, cloudy and the buildings and mountain look unfinished and unpolished. The syndication version looks more sunny and cheerful; with the buildings and landscape looking more polished and detailed.
[4.] Added In Syndication: Baloo's name to the sign in front of the office was added in syndication where it was a blank sign in the movie version.
[5.] Cut In Syndication: When the alarm clock goes off; the few seconds Baloo moans and groans are snipped in syndication.
[6.] Cut In Syndication: Baloo throws two pillows at the plane clock when the alarm goes off. That was cut in syndication although we do see the alarm clock in both versions on the close shot.
[7.] Altered in Both Syndication and Movie Versions: In the movie version; the door is about 75% complete compared to the syndication version. However; the movie version does a much better job in covering up the fact that Rebecca's legs are bare compared to the movie version. Also, Rebecca's coat has a darker shade of blue in syndication.
[8.] Cut In Syndication: When Baloo closes the door on Rebecca the first time in the movie version, Rebecca's flustered reaction isn't shown at all. What really happens is that Baloo walks away, wiping his heads clean. So Rebecca knocks on the door again saying "Excuse me" twice before Baloo returns to the door, opens the window and puts out a sign that says "Gone Fishin" telling her that he's out to lunch literally.
[9.] Added In Syndication: Rebecca reaction to Baloo's rudeness was not in the original TV movie; but was shown in the syndication version.
[10.] Cut In Syndication: When Rebecca wipes the mirror and says "Yes this place definatly needs a woman's touch." She sweeps a pile of junk off the dresser into a drawer and mutters "Or a bulldozer..."
[11.] Added In Syndication: An echo effect was added when Baloo and Rebecca are talking about the SeaDuck and hiring of a staff pilot where it was absent in the movie version.
[12.] Alteration In Syndication: The beginning of the scene outside with the pan shot of Khan Tower is more or less the same in both versions; but the syndication version added lines to show window titles on Khan Tower where it's not seen in the movie version.
[13.] Added In Syndication: In the syndication version; when Baloo was flying the Sea Duck out of Cape Suzette, they showed Kit holding onto the dash of the Sea Duck; looking at a huge blimp. The orginial movie version didn't show that sence at all.
[14.] Audio Cut In Syndication: Just after the SeaDuck flies out of the Cape Suzette's city limits:
Baloo: Gone! Solid gone! We're free!
[15.] Audio Added In Syndication: When Baloo laughs, Kit's laugh is absent from the movie version; it was later added in syndication.
[16.] Altered In Syndication: When Molly faces the camera with the evil smile, Kit's green sleeve changes to brown fur in the movie version.
[17.] Altered In Syndication: Kit's reaction to Molly was changed. In the movie version; the lip sync is off and his face is more expressive than in the syndication version. It's almost like he's mouthing more words without sound.
[18.] Audio Added In Syndication: In the movie version; Molly only made airplane noises. The machine gun noises that followed were added in syndication.
[19.] Cut In Syndication: When Baloo, Kit and Molly arrive at Louie's, Louie takes Molly's hand (with his foot), kisses it and says "My, my, my Baloo! These stewardesses are getting younger and prettier every day!" Baloo's dialogue on the Krakatoa Specials is moved to the outside shot of Louie's to cover.
[20.] Audio Changes In Syndication: When Louie is putting Molly on the stool, she giggles in syndication where the movie version is absent.
[21.] Audio Changes In Syndication: When Louie is doing his scat song while making the Krakatoa Special; Molly giggles in the movie version where syndication is absent.
[22.] Alteration In Syndication: Here's another strange edit: In the syndication version; when Louie examines the stone, he is looking at it with his right eye. Well; in the movie version, Louie was looking at it with his left eye. Not only that; the stone literally flashes in his eye and it causes him to be dizzy for a second. There is no dizziness in the syndication version.
[23.] Alteration In Syndication: When Molly is looking in the trash can, the red light effects are much, much more profound in the movie version; while the syndication version uses less red light effects, looks more believable and more subdued.
[24.] Cut In Syndication: When Baloo and Kit are talking about the stone (after Louie says it's worthless):
Kit: Karnage lifted it from one of Shere Khan's planes.
[25.] Alteration In Syndication: When Baloo grabs the stone from the trash can the first time, it zaps him. The zapping light effects are different in each version: red in the movie, white in syndication.
[26.] General Edit: This applies to the SeaDuck: The syndication version had more detail on the instruments and gauges than the movie version. Mostly adding white lines; nothing major, but still noticable enough.
[27.] Alteration In Syndication: In the syndication version; when Don Karnage and the pirates shoot the SeaDuck at Louie's; the paint peels off slower and the SeaDuck's paint job is mostly intact. In the movie version; the paint job is almost destroyed, save for the clown face; as if the paint job was already coming off.
[28.] Alteration In Syndication: On the far shot, same scene; the syndication version shows the paint completely coming off the left side of the SeaDuck; while the movie version shows the entire SeaDuck paint job as bare metal. After this; the SeaDuck looks the same in both versions (except for one strange edit near the end of Act II.).
[29.] Cut In Syndication: When Baloo does the barrel roll on Mad Dog's plane; it's hit instantly and the plane bounces into the water in syndication. In the movie version; the footage is more or less the same; but there is an extra few seconds of Baloo turning the plane so we see the entire sequence instead of just when the spot hits. Odd that they edited this out; and not the scene where Baloo pulls back on the flight stick which is not attached to anything.
[30.] Alteration In Syndication: When Molly is asking: "Are they real pirates?" in syndication; you can clearly see her mouth move and looks more cheerful. In the movie version; her mouth flaps are extremely stuff and has a more concerned look on her face that doesn't match Janna Michael's acting.
[31.] Alteration in Syndication: In the movie version; when Don Karnage get hit with the mangoes, they look like pineapple slices. This was changed to make them look like actual mango slices in syndication.
[32.] Cut In Syndication: Just after Don Karnage gets nailed with the sliced mangos; Baloo says and I quote: "Bullseye! Right on the button! HA!" before the mango in his hand gets shot.
[33.] Alteration In Syndication: Same shot; the SeaDuck has more yellow painted around the windows in syndication; where the movie version has it as bare metal.
[34.] Alteration In Syndication: Gibber's plane has a bright green nosecone in the movie version; it was colored a more brownish-green color in syndication. This edit also applies to Dumptruck's plane as well.
[35.] Cut In Syndication: Just after Kit nails Gibber with the ice cream; you can actually see Kit start laughing (watch Kit's movement) just before you see the shot of Gibber tailspining down towards the water. Kit's laughing audio is kept in both version; but the first laughing part was when Gibber's plane tailspins towards the water below.
[36.] Cut In Syndication: When Kit Cloudkicker tries to get into the SeaDuck; the rope actually breaks and Kit nearly falls; however, was able to grab the end of the stable part of the rope and managed to get back into the SeaDuck. Probably a violence cut since one of the bullet misses Kit's head by an inch.
[37.] Cut In Syndication After Kit parks his airfoil inside the SeaDuck; there is a shot of Baloo pulling a lever which closes the tail section of the plane.
[38.] Cut In Syndication: At around the 15:55 mark of part two; there is a shot of Baloo, Kit and Molly in the cockpit as the SeaDuck goes up before Baloo pulls the lever to do the Hans Solo Fruit Bomb Attack (I made the attack up; but it works). These lines are also snipped:
Baloo: Becky's mangoes are slowing us down! Kit: What'll we do?
They actually recycle the shot of Baloo pulling the lever to close the tailsection from earlier; which is in both versions. Now that is a quality use of recycling!
[39.] Alteration In Syndication: When the tailsection door of the SeaDuck is opened to let loose the cargo; the syndication version shows the back of the plane in bare metal while the movie version is re-painted yellow.
[40.] Cut In Syndication: At around the 16:03 mark; Don Karnage actually takes some mangoes in the face before the mangoes rain in on Gibber.
[41.] Added In Syndication: Gibber eating the mango and feeling happy before he gets the propeller in his hands was added in syndication.
[42.] Alteration In Syndication: During the Rebecca verbal beatdown; where the Seaduck's glass cup window shatters in a nice effect; the movie version still has the streak of blue on the front of the nose cone on the far right side of the screen. The syndication version removes this and it's all gray.
[43.] Alteration In Syndication: The eye is there in both versions; but it's moved in a way where the black eyeball is in the movie version; but it's missing in the syndication version.
[44.] Paint Edit In Syndication: The whole airplane looks different; brown in the movie version; light gray in syndication.
[45.] Alteration In Syndication: When the tail section door opens; the movie version has the water painted a weird bluish-green tint color and little splash effect. That was changed for syndication to regular white water with a much bigger splash effect.
[46.] Alteration In Syndication: Also; the tailsection door is more damaged in the syndication version while the movie version looks like cardboard in comparison.
[47.] Cut In Syndication: After Molly explains to Rebecca that Baloo saved her: Molly winks to the camera and says "Right, Baloo?; Baloo and Kit looked surprised that Molly would save them like that. That was snipped in the syndication version.
[48.] Cut In Syndication Also Baloo's "It's all water under the wing." line before Rebecca blows them off for destroying the uniforms to end the scene is cut in syndication.
[49.] General Edit: Some of the scenes in Part 2 are zoomed in for the movie version.
[50.] Alteration In Syndication: Shadow effects for the big family scene at night were added for the syndication version.
[51.] Audio Added In Syndication: When Molly gets tickled in the ribs, she only giggles one in the movie version; then there is no sound for a second and then Kit's giggling. In syndication: Molly giggles about four or five times during this without stopping.
[52.] Audio Cut In Syndication: When Molly kicks her feet when Baloo uses the poke of laughs on her; she giggles in the movie version. This is absent in the syndication version.
[53.] Major Scene Cut In Syndication: Probably the largest cut in the series: After Kit and Baloo go to look at Khan Tower; we cut back to Rebecca trying to sleep. Molly wakes up and is not happy. Rebecca asks her why and Molly claims that it's not like home. Rebecca tells her not to worry and sings her the lullaby, "Home Is Where the Heart Is." Rebecca takes out a cookie jar from the filing cabinet and Molly takes one and eats it. Kit overhears her singing as he's walking with Baloo to sleep on the Sea Duck. He listens, watches Baloo's back as he walks away and smiles slightly. Kit turns around and notices WildCat in his hammock outside as he turns out the lights. (Ironically; this is the exact moment Rebecca sings "Four walls may surround you..." He sneaks over to the window and watches Rebecca continue singing while hugging Molly, feeling happy for this family. He gets a look of incredible longing on his face as he watches the scene unfold, and looks on the verge of tears. (See Editor's Note below.) Molly nods off and Rebecca finishes the song. However, she notices Kit at the window. Without actually letting on that she's seen him (which would be embarrassing to the 12 year-old, still clinging to his tough-guy routine - this is an important insight into Rebecca's character.) she picks up the cookie jar and slowly strolls over to the window, singing the last verse again, this time to Kit. She opens the window and places the cookie jar on the sill, as Kit hides. Kit grins broadly, takes the cookies back to the Duck and happily goes to sleep. (Source: Dan Green. Additional Notes By: Gregory Weagle.)
Editor's note: And here's the links to the scene in question: Link 1/Link 2. It's not the song that's emotional; it was Molly's quote during the song that gave Kit the longing of his face; the change of moods that Kit shows during this series shines here:
Molly: But what if I'm not with you? or.... what if I'm alone?
According to Jymn Magon; he could not say why the scene was cut. Although my sources tell me it was cut due to time. If so; then it may be the most heartless, soulless edit Disney has ever done since it eliminated an important part of Rebecca's character that could have changed a lot of people's minds about her in general. My guess is it was really done to make Kit's infamous betrayal of the Air Pirates a lot less tragic than it already was. In fact; many of the cuts seem to tone down the emotion of Kit's character and the Air Pirates as well. After some consideration and thought; I rule that it really doesn't matter what excuse they came up with because the reaction would still be the same as if they cut it for time. Also of note: Even though the scene was completely removed, it wasn't butchered like in the comics. Plus; the music in the background when played is also from the same song, thus Disney forgot to overdub the music with something else. They might as well had kept the scene and be done with it; unless it's a copyright issue; which in that case, the music that did exist in syndication should have also been overdubbed.
[54.] Cut In Syndication: When Don Karnage rows into Cape Suzette in his Italian Row Boat of Doom with Dumptruck and Mad Dog in disguises; he actually sings more in the movie version than in the syndication version. Before the officer yells "Who goes there?"; Don sings this in addition: "O di police-so. Stay very calm....". Then he hums. The closeup of the spotlight on Don Karnage and this singing line plus humming were cut out; but the spotlight moving to Mad Dog/Dumptruck was kept in both versions.
[55.] Alteration In Syndication: The spotlight is a lot dimmer in the syndication version than in the movie version by the way.
[56.] Alteration In Syndication: They actually added teeth in the syndication version for Dumptruck after Mad Dog slaps him by the way.
[57.] Cut In Syndication: Just after Don Karnage turns on the motor propeller; Don Karnage says "Arrivederci, copper!" before saying "Now to find the plane." in the movie version. This line was cut in syndication.
[58.] Major Paint Edit In Syndication: In the movie version; the SeaDuck still has all the bullets, damage; and even the nose cone clown face on front. That is completely changed for the syndication version as the SeaDuck is changed back to it's normal show looking paint job and all the damage has been repaired. That is a major continuity error on the BS&P part since WildCat hasn't even started repairing the SeaDuck yet and won't until that day when part three starts. This major edit is completely consistant when showing the SeaDuck in color throughout the entire scene, depending on which version.
[59.] Paint Edit In Syndication: Inside the SeaDuck; Kit's blanket was purple in the movie version and now it's navy blue in the syndication version.
[60.] Scene Shift In Syndication: Rebecca's tossing and turning in the hammock is the same; but placed in different parts of the scene. In the movie version ; it's placed just after Molly opens her eyes and calls out for Baloo and Kit. In the syndication version; it's placed just before Baloo inserts the stone into Molly's doll.
[61.] Cut In Syndication: When Don Karnage and his two minions arrive at the docks at Higher for Hire; they go around the dock in the movie version; and a plane goes by in the background. No lines were cut; but we do see Don saying: "Look; this is it" and pointing though in the movie version.
[62.] Alteration In Syndication: When they pan up to Khan Tower; the zoom in is different. In the movie version; they zoom in perfectly straight towards Khan before cutting to Baloo and Kit talking about a deal. The syndication version has it zoom in left of center for some odd reason.
[63.] Alteration In Syndication: When we see Khan again; the camera pans south east slowly in the movie version. In the syndication version; the camera pans north west.
[64.] Alteration In Syndication: Also; the movie version seems to have the curtains at the far window completely closed when they should be open. The syndication version has them open and fixes this error.
[65.] Alteration In Syndication: The syndication version also has added some lighting effects to the back of Khan's suit after Kit's dagger play for some odd reason. The movie version doesn't have this.
[66.] Cut In Syndication: After Baloo says: "Only a lousy hundred bucks?" in the movie version; he looks at Kit and Kit looks at him for a few seconds. This was snipped in syndication.
[67.] Cut In Syndication: After Shere Khan says: "A hundred thousand lousy bucks."; Baloo looks in shock in the movie version before snapping out of it. The syndication version snipped this and has Baloo already saying: "Dollars?!"
[68.] Cut In Syndication: In Shere Khan's office, just after Baloo and Kit leave (after Baloo says "Sit tight Shere baby! We'll be back before you can say 'Sea Duck'!") Khan mutters under his breath (in relation to the $100,000 he's just offered Baloo for the stone.) "Yes, It's worth 50 times that.". He also is about to open his letters with the same vorpal dagger Kit was playing.
[69.] Cut In Syndication: Baloo and Kit sang the last line "We're gone, aidos bye-bye! Don't trouble us with trouble, man. We're gone!" and showed a nice sence of Baloo and Kit singing just before they make it to the office.
[70.] Alteration In Syndication: When Baloo enters the dark room looking for Rebecca and Molly; his shadow looks blue in the movie version. That was fixed into a regular looking shadow in the syndication release.
[71.] Cut In Syndication: When Baloo crumbles the paper; he looks like he wants to kill Don Karnage in the movie version the way he is holding that paper in the movie version. This extra bit of animation was cut out in syndication.
Part Three (32)
Part three has the least amount of edit; and a number of them seem to gear to editing out Kit's frustration and anger over his past.
[1.] Added In Syndication/Side Note: In the syndication version; there is an episode recap from part two. Also; when they show Don Karnage and his goon on the boat near the SeaDuck; the SeaDuck is still damaged despite the syndication version clearly showing zero damage and the original SeaDuck paint job from the episode before. They also didn't use an echo effect in the closet, but that is a minor quibble.
[2.] Cut In Syndication: "You're the navigator"; Baloo says as he pushes some levers and there was also a small sence of the Sea Duck flying outside through the clouds. This footage was cut in syndication.
[3.] Cut In Syndication: Baloo: "Okay Kit; now give." before he says;" How come you know so much about the Air Pirates?". This line and footage was cut in syndication.
[4.] Alteration In Syndication: Blue background in the movie version is replaced with the back wall of the cockpit in the syndication version
[5.] Cut In Syndication: "Did ya stumble on their hideout?"; Baloo says after saying: " How come you know so much about the Air Pirates?"
[6.] Cut In Syndication: Just before Kit admits that he *was* a pirate himself there was a brief moment where he took the compass that he was using , had it closed, and had it jabbed into the navigation board that he was using. The look on his face at that point was as if he was hit over the head with a grand piano, that look of anger that he gave Baloo, with his eyes tightly shut. That was cut out. (Source: Richard Lowman)
[7.] Cut In Syndication: "We're buddies! Pals! A team!"; Baloo says after "Aww; forget them Little Britches; from now on, you're with me."
[8.] Cut In Syndication: Kit giggles a bit and saids "Uhmmm....yeah." before saying "Thanks Poppa Bear." and hugging Baloo. All of this was cut; and it was a really interesting moment since it showed either Kit couldn't believe Baloo would forgive him for that, or Kit might believe it and is doing this to avoid blowing the cover of him turning heel.
[9.] Cut In Syndication: After Panther Pilot tells his navigator (in the Baloo blue pilot hat) to relax (this is 3:33 into the act by the way); the movie version had an additional scene with the following lines added:
Navigator: Relax?! Every cargo plane in the last week has been attacked by Air Pirates! Pilot: Hey! This hull is armored steel {punches it to force the point.}! Nothing is going to touch it...
The syndication version resume after this with the Air Pirates suddenly attacking it just after the pilot telling the navigator to relax because it's just clouds.
[10.] Dialog Added In Syndication: Scene where Khan's cargo plane is hijacked; "They're coming in too fast!" is added dialogue in the syndication version. The original had nothing but silence. And anime fans say this practice is exclusive to anime?
[11.] Scene Shift In Syndication: In the syndication version; the scene where the Air Pirates shoot at the wings occurs right now with the line added that "They are going too fast!". In the movie version; the scene occurs after the navigator shoots a blue CT-37 plane down. (which is shown in both versions by the way)
[12.] Added In Syndication: The navigator shoots a lot more bullets during the turret turning sequence in the syndication version than he does in the movie version.
[13.] Cut In Syndication: The top view of the Air Pirates shooting at the Khan plane afterwards (a lot less shooting than the Scene Shift I mentioned earlier) is cut in syndication.
[14.] Cut In Syndication: A shot of a blue CT-37 shooting bullets for a few seconds is also cut in syndication.
[15.] Cut In Syndication: When the Khan plane lands in the Iron Vulture; a shot of the front wheels and the pilot reaction to the bump is cut in syndication.
[16.] Alteration In Syndication: The syndication version adds more lighting effects in the syndication version during Don Karnage's fishbowl raid which is missing from the movie version.
[17.] Cut In Syndication: The flying sequence Baloo does into the volcano is seven seconds longer in the movie version than in the syndication version (and also includes Baloo's reaction to his flying skills).
[18.] Alteration In Syndication: The movie version had the SeaDuck land the same way as the syndicated version, but the gap between the navigator's door and the stone dock was too wide in the movie version. The syndication version has the plane much closer to the docks to allow Kit to get out and fix a logic break in the process.
[19.] Cut In Syndication: When Baloo and Kit arrive at Pirate Island, and they enter the 'rigged' hallway, and Kit starts running into the blue cave. Baloo says the following line that was kept in both versions: Baloo: "Hey! What about the traps?" Then the following lines and footage are cut:
Kit: "Ah, everything in this hall's busted..." [ Kit trips onto a rope set up on the ground of the path. The trap goes off, and the two are made to bolt from a giant blade.] Baloo: "Nice crowd you hung out with, Kit."
[20.] Replaced In Syndication: The traps Baloo and Kit dodge are completely different. In the movie version; Kit and Baloo actually are forced to dodge a giant sawblade that comes down on them; but they dodge that easily. In the syndication version; Baloo and Kit simply run and jump against an unstable walkway.
[21.] Added In Syndication: The dance sence (where Baloo and Kit smashed two Air Pirates together) was added to the syndication version. I think it was to keep in line with the dancing animals stereotype that Disney is best known for. But if it was in the master; then it should stay in; although I should note that it uses two air pirates who should be on the Iron Vulture since they were shown earlier in the previous scene with Don Karnage.
[22.] Audio Cut In Syndication: According to Carlin Rackley (and this one I can officially confirm), in the movie version; the music continues playing as the Iron Vulture enters Pirate Island complete with wump-wump sounds. In syndication, the sequence is slowed down and only a film projector sound is played in the background as the music stops completely.
[23.] Added In Syndication: The Iron Vulture's mouth in the syndication version is actually shown with an opening sequence when the family hides behind the boxes. The movie version already has the Iron Vulture mouth open.
[24.] Alteration In Syndication: The furance spotlight is different; but is present in both versions. The syndication version is a full spotlight; while the movie version uses a more realistic fireplace like spotlight and is dimmer. I should note that the movie version spotlight actually makes you see Don Karnage rolling on the spool of cable on stage where the syndication version makes it disappear.
[25.] Alteration In Syndication: When Don Karnage slams the furnace door, the sound it makes is different in both versions. In the movie version; it sounds like a real metal door is slamming, in the syndication version, it sounds more cartoonish.
[26.] Alternation In Syndication: According to Carlin Rackley (Not sure about this one though); the music is slightly different between both versions.
[27. ] Added In Syndication: Baloo's "One...more...time!" audio is kept. In the movie edition; half of the video is Don Karnage hearing Baloo and the other half is cut to Baloo. In syndication; we see Baloo say the line all the way just showing Baloo saying it.
[28.] Added In Syndication: Don Karnage thinks about it before he laughs in the syndication version after Baloo squeezes the hat after Kit officially betrays him.
[29.] Added In Syndication: After Don Karnage says: "Shoot them...a lot!"; he also says: "Perforate them, you pinheads!". This was added in syndication.
[30.] Cut In Syndication: The Baloo/Rebecca/Molly chase is longer in the movie version and the first scene featuring the chase was cut in the syndication version. The following lines were also cut:
Baloo: Step on it, Becky! Rebecca: It's Rebecca!
[31.] Cut In Syndication The SeaDuck flies up and the CT-37's fires bullets after it before the big cannons shoot from the ground. This scene was cut in syndication.
[32.] Alteration In Syndication: When Mr. Khan declares that he makes his own rules in dramatic fashion; the background is different. In the movie version; it's in the awesome pink background; while the syndication version uses the orange sunset background which looks nice; but less awesome. It goes back to the orange sunset in the next shot of it.
Part Four (49)
Part Four now has the second most edits in the pilot and also has the most bizzare edits take place here:
[1.] Added In Syndication: In the syndication verison; there is a recap of the episode from part three. I should point out that they add about 32 seconds to each episode.
[2.] Alteration In Syndication: In the movie version; Mad Dog's "Hurry Up" and pirates chatter is moved from the gun rack shot to the running shot; where as the syndication version has the audio during the gun rack shot. No actual audio is cut.
[3.] Added In Syndication: When the pirates take their battle stations, the alarm buzzing sound is absent in the movie version.
[4.] Added In Syndication: When the Iron Vulture takes off; a train chugging sound effect along with a helicopter sound effect is added while the movie version has only a wump sound effect.
[5.] Added In Syndication: In the syndication version; there is actually music being played in the background when Rebecca is in the telephone booth. This is absent in the movie version. So yes fans, there's your music change, it's 4Kids to a T now.
[6.] Added In Syndication: After Shere Khan says "Absurd!"; the lightning gun begins to shoot. In the syndication version, a thunderclap is heard in the background which is absent in the movie version.
[7.] Cut In Syndication: Shot of the Iron Vulture in the sky coming in shooting the lightning gun before the operators scatter is cut in syndication.
[8.] Alteration In Syndication: The movie version has a wump-wump sound effect when the Iron Vulture moves into the city; while the syndication version clearly has a train chugging sound effect.
[9.] Cut In Syndication: When Karnage is (having a ball), blasting the cliff guns, this line is cut:
Karnage: "How do you like them mangos, citizens?!"
[10.] Cut In Syndication: The wump-wump sound effect when Don claims that he needs no introduction is basically no noise in syndication. Must have forgotten to dub in the train chugging sound.
[11.] Cut In Syndication: After Rebecca and Molly come out of the drugstore and Don Karnage introduces himself. Don Karnage said he was a pirate extraordinaire. These two words and footage was cut in syndication.
[12.] Cut In Syndication: When Don Karnage fires the Lightning Gun into buildings a shot of the lightning gun before it fires into the second building is cut.
[13.] Cut In Syndication: When Karnage is having a ball blasting the buildings, this line was cut in syndication:
Karnage: (laughing hysterically) "I am having such a good time!"
[14.] Alteration In Syndication: When Kit backs up towards the dumpster; the thunderclap and explosion sound effects are in different spots when compared in each version.
[15.] Added In Syndication: Don Karnage says Hmm before he orders Ratchet to burn down more buildings in syndication where it is absent in the movie version.
[16.] Alteration In Syndication: When Kit backs up towards the radio and goes to give his message; the banging sounds are different in the movie version. The sound effect is the same in both versions, but the sound timing is different as the movie version had two straight sounds when Kit is issuing his mayday.
[17.] Added In Syndication: When Mad Dog is put down on the ground after Don orders them to stop using him as a battering ram, an extra sound effect was added where the movie version is absent.
[18.] Audio Cut In Syndication: When Baloo's dancing at Louie's, he's singing "I'm gone, aidos bye-bye! Don't trouble me with troubles man!" before he follows with the uncut line "Hey Louie, ain't this the life?" No actual footage is cut, the line was muted. Odd since, I'm Gone was allowed in Act I even in syndication!
[19.] Audio Cut In Syndication: Kit has just stolen the stone from the lightning gun in an selfless attempt to save Cape Suzette from destruction. Karnage and Co. are chasing him through the Iron Vulture. After leading them on a long and daring chase, he's finally cornered in the radio room. As the pirates slowly burn away the door with a blow torch, Kit desperately tries to get a message to Baloo. The full message is as follows:
Kit: Can't stop them from wrecking the city. But I tried. Please tell Baloo! Tell Poppa Bear! I'm his navigator! Always.
The Disney censors edited out the word "Always". (Source: Dan Green)
[20.] Added In Syndication: When Kit pops himself from the ceiling pipes; Don Karnage's screaming and Wooly Whatsit sound effecting is still going on in syndication while the movie version is absent.
[21.] Cut In Syndication: In the movie version, there is a side shot of the Iron Vulture and then it pans down to the docks of Higher For Hire showing Rebecca with Molly in her arms in front of the door. Molly and Rebecca are looking up and Molly says: "Mommy, it's Kit!" pointing straight at Kit. This scene was cut in syndication. (Source: Dan Green)
[22.] Alteration In Syndication: When Baloo says "Hang on to your kneecaps." in syndication ; in the movie version, Baloo says "Hang on to your kneecap..."; indicating the audio has been cut off a spilt second too early.
[23.] Cut In Syndication: When Karnage torches the bridge the Sea Duck is hiding under, and believes he's done away with Baloo and Kit. Karnage says: "We have made the mincemeat of them, yes-no?" This line is muted in syndication as no footage is actually cut.
[24.] Added In Syndication: In syndication; Molly says "Yay, Baloo! during the cheering when Baloo and Kit come out of the bridge. The "Baloo" part is absent in the movie version.
[25.] Added In Syndication: Very next shot; just before Baloo and Rebecca do their "We're going!", "No, I'm staying!" spot; explosions were added to the syndication version, where they were absent in the movie version.
[26.] Alteration In Syndication: The spotlight during the Air Pirate raid of the city is dimmer in the movie version than in the syndication version.
[27.] Alteration In Syndication: The tires they use on the SeaDuck are different as well. In the movie version; they have black treds with white sides. In the syndication version; they use black treds with blue sides. Sadly; they couldn't keep the continuity straight in the syndication version when the SeaDuck flies as the tires go back into the movie version.
[28.] Alteration In Syndication: When Baloo asks WildCat when about the engines, his mouth doesn't move. This was fixed in syndication.
[29.] Alteration In Syndication: When Don Karnage goes to the telescope; the syndication version adds the black telescope effect when we see the SeaDuck coming towards him. This is missing in the movie version.
[30.] Added In Syndication: In the syndication version; just after Don Karnage orders Ratchet to fire the Lightning Gun at the SeaDuck; we have a shot of the SeaDuck coming towards the camera and then we go to the commerical break. (There is no commerical break in the movie version; it simply continues as if it is Act XI; so there are eleven acts in the movie version officially.) After the break; we go to a far shot of the Iron Vulture with the spotlights on the ocean and then another shot of the SeaDuck heading towards the Iron Vulture.
[31.] Scene Shift In Syndication: We head to the shot of the Iron Vulture's mouth as Don Karnage gets onto his pedastal and puts in this line: "Time to lightning up their lives!" as we go to the control panel. The syndication version has it as is; but the movie version is moved to after the shot of Baloo, Rebecca and Kit being shown and Baloo giving more power.
[32.] Cut In Syndication: The movie version only has a shot of Ratchet rising up getting ready to fire which is snipped in the syndication version.
[33.] Cut In Syndication: Some extra parts of the Lightning Gun getting powered up were also cut in syndication. Note that none of this footage was recycled from earlier.
[34.] Added In Syndication: After the second shot from the Lightning Gun and Baloo and Rebecca cheered, Kit says "It worked!" in the syndication version, which is absent in the movie version. I think it was a laughable attempt to cover up Ed Gilbert saying "It fucking worked"; but Kit's voice was way off; making certain that we clearly heard Baloo say it. Disney Captions had Baloo say what Kit said here, making the gaffe on Ed's part even more obvious. I should note that the precision F strike has never been redubbed in any version of this pilot.
[35.] Added In Syndication: There is an extra couple of seconds of an air pirate (the one with the black cross amulet around his neck) getting in position in the syndication version.
[36.] Scene Shift In Syndication: In the movie version we see the SeaDuck fly around the building first, then the snipped short scene of the air pirate from edit #35 shooting his guns, then the SeaDuck is shown in a closeup inside the building going around and then the pirate crashes into the building. In syndication, they show an extended scene of the air pirate from edit #35 shooting his guns, then the SeaDuck is shown outside going around the building and then go to the inside shot of the building.
[37.] Cut In Syndication: In the tunnel sequence; one of the pirates looking the other way before turning around to react to the low clearance is snipped from syndication.
[38.] Muted In Syndication: The music was much louder in the movie version than the syndication version, despite the sound effects being the same volume when the final two CT-37's crash onto the ground.
[39.] Alteration In Syndication: When Don Karnage and company scatter in various directions while the gun is being fired at them, the shot is flipped horizontal. In the movie version, Don Karnage runs west while in syndication, Don Karnage runs east.
[40.] Cut In Syndication: A few seconds of the waves coming in is cut. You can tell because there's no bare land before the waves come in.
[41.] Added In Syndication: When the orange shield closes around Shere Khan's window, a sound effect was added in syndication where the movie version had a clock ticking for no reason.
[42.] Added In Syndication: In the background; alarm sounds were added in syndication where the movie edition is absent.
[43.] Alteration in Syndication: When the tide rolls out to show Baloo; in the movie edition, the tide doesn't completely roll out as there is still a few inches of water left. In syndication; the tide completely rolls out with only drops of water on the ground. This applies to edit #44.
[44.] Alteration In Syndication: Because the movie version kept a few inches of water in the scene, when Baloo faints for a second, there was a lot more splashing visual effects in the movie version. Syndication's splashing effect was much more subdued, due to the change in edit #43.
[45.] Added In Syndication: Train chugging sound effect added to Iron Vulture in syndication, which was absent in the movie version.
[46.] Cut In Syndication: Wind sound effects were muted in syndication when the windsock on the roof of Higher For Hire is shown.
[47.] Alteration In Syndication: When we head back to the cockpit with Baloo talking with Rebecca and piloting; the back wall of the cockpit is more detailed in the movie version than in syndication.
[48.] Cut In Syndication: The end credits are based on part four in the syndication version while the movie uses the entire film credits as a whole.
[49.] Cut In Syndication/Added In Syndication: The music is also longer in the TV Movie version too as it uses the full instrumental version of "Spin It!" with no lyrics, laughing or grunts in it; while the syndication version uses the episode version ending of the "Spin It!" which includes basically saying "TaleSpin" "another tale to spin", grunts and laughing. Movie Link/Syndication Link (using Jolly Molly Christmas as a base.)
Final Note: The average number of edits was around 46 edits per episode; which is the average amount for a 4Kids anime dub by the way. If purists want to blame someone for Al Khan's vision of anime then Plunder and Lightning would be a mighty fine start for them.
TaleSpin Series Syndication Edits
First Run Syndication to Second Run Syndication
This section deals with changes that have been done between the first air dates and the re-runs. Here is what you may have missed:
Editor's Note: On August 29th, 2006; Disney released the first volume of TaleSpin episodes onto DVD. Disney released all 65 episodes onto DVD. The version is the second run syndication edits. Bear in mind that finding evidence between the first run and second run syndication is nearly impossible since most TaleSpin fans have never uploaded the episodes as aired for the first time. So I'm only going from secondary sources and they may not be 100% accurate. If anyone has seen the first run syndication version of TaleSpin and noticed any changes between the first and second run episodes; please e-mail me at: gweagle@eastlink.ca . The only exception is the Disney Channel version of Plunder and Lightning which aired on September 9th, 1990. Most of these known edits are animation changes to correct errors or bad animation (most sourced by the former TaleSpin website Wild Blue Yonder (only it's archive is still on the World Wide Web.)). However; there are a few noticable edits that were for BS&P reasons.
Citizen Khan
[1.] Around fourteen minutes into the episode; Clementine escapes a locked room through the window using the bedsheets as a rope. The ropes untangle and Clementine falls into the water filled horse stall.
The first run syndication line Clementine said was: "Well, a girl's gotta take a bath every once in a while."
The second run syndication line she said is: "After her bath, a girl's ready for anything."
According to the source: You can cleary see that what she says doesn't match up at all with the character's facial movements. Apparently; the voice didn't match well either according to the same source.
Jolly Molly Christmas
[1.] On Pirate Island, Karnage has just lectured his minions on how "Bad is good!" When he says "Christmas only comes once a year!" in the first run version, there is a small but noticable coloration error on Karnage; in the second run version, this is corrected.
Mach One For The Gipper
[1.] After Baloo and Wildcat are chased into a cave by Ace London and the Air Pirates, Wildcat suggests to Baloo to use the secret engine to escape. Baloo replies "Absolutely perfect!" In the first run version, the background behind Baloo is mistakenly shown as the sky, instead of the cockpit of the Sea Duck. Then, later on when the Sea Duck crashes inside the Iron Vulture, there are some colouring mistakes on Karnage. Both these mistakes were corrected in the second run version.
Stuck On You
[1.] Now here's where it gets interesting... After Baloo gets off the phone with the glue factory, he re-enters the office, and Rebecca waves his plane keys coyly at him. The difference here is Rebecca is drawn differently in both versions! In the first run version the shot is further away; in the second version, the shot is a close-up, with a different pose and with more expression.
Random of The Red Chimp
[1.] Here's the most noticably edited of the bunch. A furious Don Karnage confronts Aunt Louise at the helm of the Iron Vulture... And gets more than he bargains for. This whole scene is different in both versions! Karnage's expressions differ in both versions, and in the first run version, when Karnage bangs his head on a pipe, this action is covered by another pipe. In the second run version, you can see it clearly. Not to mention the other less noticable corrections (Karnage being hit by pies, the spotlights in the hangar of the Iron Vulture).
Bygones
[1.] At the end of the episode, there is a close-up of pages from Baloo's Rick Skye comic. In the second run version, the camera pans across the two pages; in the first run version, it only shows the last page.
TaleSpin Series Disney Channel/Toon Disney Edits
Disney Channel & Toon Disney Versions Comparisons to Syndication
In 1995; Disney decided to edit the episodes of TaleSpin for violence, mimickery and racist dialog in order to please Business Standards & Practices for the Disney Channel. Here is what you may have missed:
Editor's Note: Starting On August 29th, 2006; Disney released the first and second volume of TaleSpin episodes onto DVD. Disney released the all 65 episodes onto DVD uncut (with the exception of Plunder and Lightning which is based on the 1990 syndication version; although several cuts in that four parter have been restored for DVD release.). So I suspect that these episodes are no longer cut by Disney and all edits on this page are based on the 1995-2005 version that ran on Disney Channel and Toon Disney.
(Additional Notes: The iTunes and Disney+ versions use the Toon Disney edited version. None of the episodes have been remastered and retain the original resolution of the series. The iTunes version has Flying Dupes and Last Horizons; Disney+ at this time does not have either and reports have stated that Jumping The Guns is not on there.)
Plunder & Lightning
Part One
- Just after Louie says; "Get out of my place Karnage"; a sword shows up and Louie backs up before Karnage says "Uhuhuh!" was cut out.
- Don Karnage says "This is no time for a Chinese fire drill!" was cut out. (Source: Kelly Anderson; TaleSpin Collection)
Part Three
- Russian Version Only: When Baloo uses the Overdrive: All scenes with the giant sound waves hitting the CT-37's was cut out completely. Outside of Russia, this scene is kept in all versions.
Part Four
- Remember what I said in the re-rant of Plunder and Lightning about Hacksaw's pistol checking being edited? Well; it clearly was along with Dumptruck taking bullet belts. I can now officially confirm that it is a Toon Disney edit.
- Karnage orders his men to "shoot down the door" and the bullets end up ricocheting around the corrider while they weakly dodge them! The shot with Don Karnage saying "Someone get the blowtorch". (Source: Jeffrey Mika, TaleSpin Source Page) are both cut out.
Editor's Note: These scenes are intact in the TaleSpin Volume 1 DVD version for North America.
Stormy Weather
- According to John Grant; Stormy Weather was originally titled: "Baloo Skies". This title is not being used for the DVD release however.
Vowel Play
- According to TV Tropes; In Germany, Tale Spin had got only 64 episodes because "Vowel Play" havd proven impossible to translate sensibly in the first place (due to its plot of Baloo mispelling the skywriting code words he had been tricked by the villain into displaying, rendering the animation incomprehensible in non-Englsh countries.)
Editor's Note: This only applies to television and the DVD sets in Germany; although the final DVD set (Volume 4) has not been confirmed for release yet.
My Fair Baloo
[1.] When Owl Capone and his goons hijack the Spruce Moose the second time (and just after Rebecca storms out of the ballroom); in the syndication version we see one of the white bird gangsters take out his machine gun and fires it. This two second shot is cut.
[2.] This is also done a second time after Owl proclaims that the raft is only for his gangsters in roundabout terms. It's basically the same shot of the bird shooting the machine gun.
Editor's Note: Both shots are restored in the TaleSpin Volume 2 DVD release.
Polly Wants A Treasure
[1.] There was a 3 second edit where Dumptruck and Mad Dog were sifting through cargo and the part where Dumptruck puts the muzzle of a gun to Baloo's face was deleted out. If you watch carefully; it's frightening similar to scenes in the anime Trigun where the gunmen often put the gun into a person's mouth.(Source: Michael J. Gollihue)
[2.] Near the end of the second last sence; Kit is held by his sweater by Don Karnage and he said something to Baloo; "...or something terrible is going to happen!". That statement was deleted out, mainly because Don Karnage placed the sword under Kit's throat during that statement.
Editor's Note: All scenes in this episode have been restored for the TaleSpin Volume One DVD release.
Her Chance To Dream
- Some syndies during it's original run didn't air the episode because the ending involved Rebecca basically killing the ghost of William Stansbury. The episode was reinstated afterwards on Toon Disney and the TaleSpin Volume One DVD set with zero edits that I noticed.
On A Wing & A Bear
- When Don Karnage threatens the Yes-Man to give him a singing telegram; in the original syndication version; Don Karnage places the sword blade underneath the Yes-Man's throat. In the Toon Disney version; that shot was cut.
Editor's Note: That scene has been restored for the TaleSpin Volume 1 DVD release.
The Balooest Of The Bluebloods
- After Helga cuts the chocolate bear's head off ; Hans proclaims that dessert is properly served flambeed. In the original version; Hans said "Of course not, sir." and brought out a book of matches and struck the match on the box. In the Toon Disney version; the match striking was cut along with the "Of course not, sir." and "Bon Appetti" lines being muted. His "dessert is properly served flambeed" line was moved to Hans setting the chocolate bear on fire.
Editor's Note: This deleted scene has been restored for the TaleSpin Volume 1 DVD release.
Captains Outrageous
- There is a part where Oscar is supposed to pop out of the compartment in the floor of the SeaDuck and say, "Wait, Baloo, You forgot your matches." In fact; the beginning of the third act up until Baloo is sneaking towards the dungeon is also cut. (Source: Mike)
Editor's Note: This deleted scene has been restored for the TaleSpin Volume 2 DVD release.
Pizza Pie In The Sky
[1.] When Louie is laying in bed and hallucinating, there's one scene in which they actually show the health inspector through Louie's eyes ,and he looks like an anchovie. What was cut was that; plus the entire themometer exploding spot and Louie saying that the Health Inspector was the king of the anchovies and it can talk. This was cut due to the fact that the shot of the Health Inspector's blue tie appeared to be a noose.
[2.] Also this line was cut out: "....with the bomb squad!" and the shot during that. The easier job part was retained however.
Editor's Note: Both deleted scenes have been restored for the TaleSpin Volume 2 DVD Release.
Whistlestop Jackson, Legend
- Baloo, deciding that Whistlestop could use some artillery, opens the side door of the cargo hold and pulls a firework out of the case of fireworks. Disney cut out what immediately follows: Baloo strikes a match against the door jamb and remarks, "Time to light up some lives around here!". This was kept in the Family Channel Canada verison.
Editor's Note: This deleted scene has been restored for the TaleSpin Volume 2 DVD release.
Last Horizons
[1.] To get back to the Sea Duck, Baloo straddles a Panda-La rocket. Telling the others that he's doing this for Cape Suzette, "even if he is just a nobody", Baloo pulls out a match, strikes it and lights the fuse on the rocket. Disney cut out the whole match bit. (Matches... in these two and "Captains Outrageous" - hmm, do you sense a trend here?)
[2.] The episode was originally skipped because of the Asian stereotypes according to sources. Although I think it was Asian-descent doing terrorist acts was the real reason. The episode was reinstated on Toon Disney and ran on Family Channel Canada during the skip.
[3.] The episode also never aired in China; for obvious reasons.
Editor's Note: This episode has not only been reinstated; the deleted scene in it has also been restored for the TaleSpin Volume 2 DVD release.
Stuck On You
- There are three edits in this episode, all of which involve Dumptruck and guns:
[1.] After a moment of silence for the "departed" Captain Karnage, Dumptruck attempts to get the pirates' attention by clinking a glass. When that fails, Dumptruck breaks the glass and fires his pistol into the ceiling. Disney cut straight from Dumptruck breaking the glass, to the pirates' reaction.
[2.] Later, when the pirates declare mutiny, Karnage overreacts to being called "crazy" and he and Baloo struggle over Mad Dog. Dumptruck pulls out his gun; this, and the following lines of dialogue, are cut:
Dumptruck: Well if you're not crazy, how come you *act* crazy? Karnage: Crazy? Crazy?! There is a perfectly logical reason why I am acting crazy!
[3.] In the glue factory, Karnage hides Baloo under a crate and stands on top of it as Dumptruck, Mad Dog, and Gibber approach. Gun in hand, Dumptruck exclaims, "Let's pickle the herrings!" - this short bit has been removed.
Editor's Note: All scenes have been restored on the TaleSpin Volume 3 DVD release.
A Baloo Switcheroo
[1.] At the very beginning, Karnage snatches the Idol of the Spirit-Switchers from Professor O'Bowens, who warns him of the idol's powers. Edited from this scene is Karnage's reply:
Don Karnage: Who cares about that? I just want the jewels!
[2.] After sending Baloo and Kit off with the idol, O'Bowens is cornered by Karnage, Mad Dog, and Dumptruck. After O'Bowens exclaims that his courage is "unshakeable", Karnage and company threaten with their swords, prompting O'Bowens to point to the departing Sea Duck and confess that the idol is on the plane. The sword bit and O'Bowens' confession have been edited out.
[3.] This episode didn't air in some syndies due to New Age Themes.
[4.] Only In The UK Version: The shot where the sword goes into the pocket socket is snipped out. It is still in the US version however.
Update: All scenes (including the one in the UK) that were deleted in 1995 have been restored for the TaleSpin Volume 2 DVD release. However; while Kit's Oh My God is intact in the actual audio; it was changed to Oh My Gosh! in the English Captions.
A Spy In The Ointment
- Picking up right after the first commercial break; Rebecca and Baloo are cornered in a Thembrian alley as a dark figure approaches. Suddenly, Rebecca whips out a revolver and exclaims, "I'm packing a pistol, and I'm not afraid to use it." She is holding it backwards, however, and Baloo takes it from her just before the shadowy figure reveals himself to be Jack Case. This whole part is edited; (Which makes no sense, because while Rebecca throws herself all over Jack, Baloo tosses the revolver over his shoulder. With the previous shot cut out, where did Baloo get the gun? Once again, little things like this prove just how much editing can disrupt the storyline.)
Editor's Note: This scene has been restored for the TaleSpin DVD Volume One release.
Jumping The Guns
- When Louie swings onto the catwalk; the Air Pirates start shooting at the SeaDuck and Louie. Toon Disney snipped out the shot of the Air Pirates shooting their guns.
- When the SeaDuck flies around; we see a the Air Pirates in far away in the background shooting at it. The next shot is a closeup of some of the Air Pirates shooting and that shot was cut out.
Editor's Note: These scene has been restored for the TaleSpin DVD Volume Two release.
Flight School Confidential
- When Kit is in the Thunderyak fighter for the first time -- after being chased into a building by Thembrian tanks, he makes it to the roof where he meets a half-dozen rifle-bearing troops. However, Kit remarks "Sorry guys!", pulls the stick around and zooms off the other way. What Disney cut was a couple shots of the soldiers firing at Kit, followed by a side-view shot of bullets pelting the snow around the fleeing Thunderyak. This segment lasts only six seconds, but it features the best unobscured view of the Thunderyak in profile. This scene is still intact in the Family Channel Canada verison.
Update: This deleted scene has been restored for the TaleSpin Volume 2 DVD release.
In Search of Ancient Blunders
After the giant statue drops on the mummy, Baloo, Wildcat, and Myra flee down another hallway. Falling down another pit in the floor (ceiling), they land in a pitch-black room which Myra deduces is the 'Chamber of Eternal Night' (Baloo: "No point in looking for the light switch!") Wildcat pulls out a book of matches, leading to some comic banter before the mummy arrives and chases our heroes out of the room, right into Karnage and company. In all, the sequence lasts 1 minute and 5 seconds - about the longest single edit yet (excluding "Home is Where the Heart Is" from P&L). These lines were also cut:
Baloo: Wildcat, are you in here? WildCat: I don't know, I'm still looking.
Editor's Note: This entire deleted scene (plus all lines) has been restored for the TaleSpin Volume 2 DVD Release.
Bringing Down Babyface
- Half-Nelson and Officer Malarkey are struggling in the cockpit while Baloo looks on. As they struggle, Malarkey pulls out a revolver and fires a couple shots in the cargo hold. Baloo dodges these shots and snatches the revolver away, which he then nonchalantly tosses out the window before Half-Nelson tells him to "Use the sock!".
- Just when the Chuckleheads enter the antique car and Baloo stands there looking stunned as machine gun fire rains destroying the cake and balloons before Baloo is haulied into the car. What Toon Disney snipped out was the shot where we see Malarkey shooting the actual machine gun.
- During the scene where Baloo is standing behind the door and the Chucklehead are about to kill him with their pistols; the actual gun cocking (where the gun clicks) by the Chuckleheads and a shot of one of the Chuckleheads about to pull the trigger is snipped out.
- Half-Nelson prepares to dynamite the warehouse before the cops arrive. Ma Nelson's following remark is cut: "This place could use a good spring cleaning anyhow!". The lighting of the match shot is also snipped out.
Editor's Note: All deleted scenes have been restored to the TaleSpin Volume 2 DVD release.
Mach One For The Gipper
- At the end, General Patton tells Baloo his achievement "will go in the history books." Baloo's remark ("Honest injun?") is cut out just before he goes on to say "Well how about that!"
Editor's Note: All scenes have been restored on the TaleSpin Volume 3 DVD release.
The Golden Sprocket of Friendship
This edit occurs about halfway through the episode, and involves the removal of a considerable amount of material from the following exchange between Trader Moe and Colonel Spigot. {Edited lines and actions appear in brackets.}
Spigot: Oh, you're back. You found my sergeant?
Moe: Sergeant? We're just your friendly neighborhood hot dog vendors!
Goon: Yeah, we're not crooks or nothin'!
Spigot: Hot dogs? Hot dogs?!
{--Spigot's gun brushes against Moe's chest--}
{Moe: Watch where you're pointing that thing, shortstop! It may be loaded!}
{Spigot: It's all right, my bullets are back in Thembria. They can't leave the country without an eleven-fourteen form, and we were all out of those.}
{Moe: Gee, that's too bad. In that case,} hand over what's in the box!
Spigot: The Golden Sprocket? Never! {Say, you're not the kid in the pickle outfit, are you?}
{--Moe points a pistol at Spigot--}
{Spigot: *gulp* Guess not...}
{Moe: We gotcha outnumbered three to one!}
{Spigot: Uh, let's not do anything *I'm* going to regret.}
{Dunder: --removes cap on suit-- Hey, what're you doing to my fearless leader?} Where's Baloo?
Moe: What is this? A bogus poupon? Where's my other goon?!
--Spigot slaps the gun out of Moe's hand--
Spigot: Aha! Now it's two against two. Come on, Sergeant Dunder! Now we've got *you* outnumbered.
Editor's Note: This scene has been restored for the TaleSpin Volume One DVD release.
Citizen Khan
- As Baloo, Kit, and Clementine are about to go rescue Wildcat from the miners, Gomer and Wendell block the exit:
Gomer: No one's goin' nowhere!
Baloo: Sez who??
{--Four rifles appear from nowhere, pointing at Baloo's snout--}
Gomer: Sez me!
Baloo: (gulp) Whatever you sez...
Editor's Note: This deleted scene has been restored for the TaleSpin Volume 2 DVD release.
War of the Weirds
- Numerous shots are cut of Colonel Grogg firing his machine gun wildly at the "Martians", spraying the campground with gunfire (mostly closeup shots). Kit turns to Baloo:
Kit: This is us leaving??
Baloo: Right the first time!
{--Baloo and Kit make a break for it--}
- A few seconds of gunfire are also edited just before Grogg's machine gun finally runs out of ammo.
- Even more strange, the shot of Kit and Baloo on their bellies during the first spraying of gunfire was actually moved to the second spraying of gunfire.
- Right after Rebecca runs into Baloo and Kit, Grogg -- driving in his jeep with Wildcat -- waves his gun and fires into the forest, sending several stray shots flying over Baloo, Kit, and Rebecca's heads.
Editor's Note: All deleted scenes are restored for the TaleSpin Volume 2 DVD Release.
Paradise Lost
- As Baloo and O'Roarke prepare to leave the valley, there is a tense moment where the two are in the cockpit with O'Roarke pointing his rifle at Baloo. Baloo says "You're crazy!"; to which O'Roarke replies, "You're right," before ordering Baloo to start the engines.
- The original title of the episode was called The Hunt. Probably BS&P thought the title name was too violent. Sadly; there is a film called Paradise Lost which has content about teenage thrill killing. (Source: Jeffrey Scott's Official Website).
Editor's Note: This scene was restored for the TaleSpin Volume 3 DVD release.
All's Whale That Ends Whale
- As Kit (disguised as a seal) makes his way to Moby Dimple's tank, Seymour spots him and grumbles, "All I need is to start the show a seal short!" What's edited is a following shot where Seymour throws a rope around Kit's neck and drags him off to the stage, just before the show begins.
Editor's Note: This scene has been restored for the TaleSpin Volume One DVD release.
Bygones
- After Baloo said: "Sounds like old Karney's still flyin' one taco short of a combination plate."; he strikes a match and then lights the fuse around thirteen minutes into the episode. The Toon Disney version snipped out Baloo striking a match.
Editor's Note: The match striking has been restored for the TaleSpin Volume Three DVD release.
Flying Dupes
- This episode was been black listed completely since it went onto the Disney Channel in 1995. It caused some problems when a week after the first boardcast on August 8th, 1991; the Russia leader was removed from power after a failed coup. He was restored to power in the end. Apparently; Disney came under fire because the episode's plot revolves around a bomb and blowing up a world leader (The High Marshall) and the show was barred in the US as a result. Interestly enough; the episode still ran on Family Channel Canada and some independent channels in America and outside America throughout their runs from 1995 onward without a single edit. Disney still refuses to show this episode in the US even to this very day (except for an unintentional showing on Toon Disney which is on Youtube somewhere). Some however argue that the episode was banned because the underlying themes of the plot (Corperate Sponsored Violence being one of them.) was hitting way too close to home to Disney. That is still not been proven as of yet.
Editor's Note: This episode has been reinstated when it was released officially on the TaleSpin Volume Three DVD release.
Other Edits (Various Episodes)
- According to sources; the entire song "Friends for Life" (which is part of the Disney Afternoon Soundworks CD.) was cut from the TaleSpin series. It might have been originally planned for Road To Macadamia and probably was cut for time reasons.
- According to sources; the entire song "Monkey In Your Tank" (which is part of the Disney Afternoon Soundworks CD) was cut from the TaleSpin series. It was originally planned for A Fuel Dollars More and probably was cut for time reasons.
- There might be a few episodes that never showed up in the series; due to the 65 episode limit. Several sources have claimed that one episode was supposed to be called "The Hunt For White November" which was supposed to feature a spy plane from Thembria. There was also a script about Molly meeting Dangerwoman whom she was in a wheelchair; and a few others.
I wonder why Disney finds it unacceptable to show responsible adults handling matches, or to show villains like Karnage and the pirates handling bullet shooting guns? And the pirates are villains, so naturally they have bullet shooting guns, as opposed to the heroes for the most part (Rebecca's use of the gun was cut; along with at least one shot of a police shooting a machine gun). And Baloo's welding a flare gun was still kept in A Touch of Glass. Disney Channel/Toon Disney's editing practices are such a joke that it's not funny. They double standard everything. Thankfully; the point is rendered moot now that it's shown that the TaleSpin DVD's are the second run syndication version and thus all the TD/DC cuts are gone.
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